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1469 posts | Last Activity on 21-01-2025 17:53 by Amiwell79
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Amiwell79 21-01-2025 17:53, 1 day ago
Re: Tiny Aros Distrò
yes it is down because I did not pay this month that other address the alternative one
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Mirq 21-01-2025 17:29, 1 day ago
Re: Tiny Aros Distrò
Hi there, https://www.tinyaros.it/ seems to be down. Is there any other source of this distro? nevermind i found it here: http://www.im-creator.com/free/amiwell/tiny_aros
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Amiwell79 21-01-2025 00:28, 2 days ago
Re: Tiny Aros Distrò
In practice, to have the latest updated version, you must also install Aros U2 and the only software package that was missing Barsnpiipes who previously did not work with Aros U2 is everything https://www.axrt.org/download/aros/v0/AROS-20220318-1-U2-any-i386-update.zip
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Amiwell79 20-01-2025 23:41, 2 days ago
Re: Tiny Aros Distrò
I had problems with the new archive I have to fix it at the moment you can download version 3.4.1 sorry!!
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CoolCat5000 19-01-2025 11:09, 3 days ago
Re: Nanomig
Very thanks for that! 🙂 They are exactly in the roadmap that i would choose (thats is news and a very pleasant surprise). I dont need to say nothing more, they are, surprisiling, at the same vision than me, and IMHO great times are coming! 🎊🥳🎉
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amigamia 19-01-2025 10:30, 3 days ago
Re: Nanomig
Let's just see what happens. It is premature to judge a product when it's still in the brainstorming stage. The big brains such as (Emu68) Michal Schulz, Claude (PiStorm), Till Harbaum (Nanomig) and others, are already at work with it. If you want to know more, you can read their chat on Discord under the #hardware-hacking [url]https://discord.gg/ad8Sh9Zj[/url]
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miker1264 19-01-2025 09:48, 3 days ago
Re: Nanomig
I love my old Amiga case on my desk and playing with the old floppy. ;-) I bought my Amiga 1200 in 2008 when it was new. But now it has a PiStorm32 Lite which is much better than any old Amiga! Now it's a Raspberry Pi. I suspect there are many more old Amiga users than AROS users. Apparently there are only 273 users on this forum. In my experience Amiga users also use AROS because it's more modern yet still familiar. It's very similar to Amiga OS. PS - Fetishist = Hobbyist.
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pixie 19-01-2025 08:22, 3 days ago
Re: Nanomig
I guess they're nostalgic, otherwise they would use haiku, linux, netbsd, freebsd... all better OSs in their own right. So I guess their fetishism is pretty much in line with anyone using an amigalike os. Each have their own reason, it's hard for me to understand why some from a fringe of computing feel the need to be little the very same fringe. It's even harder in a thread where you piggyback of hardware explicitly made to run Amiga games. Fetishism is quite an harsh word
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AMIGASYSTEM
AMIGASYSTEM 19-01-2025 05:30, 4 days ago
Re: Nanomig
Hopefully this will happen and we will also have a Modern Amiga OS3, although the few remaining Amiga users are only nostalgic for old games and are not interested in a Modern Amiga if it will not be compatible with old games! For some Amiga users, WinUAE and WHADLoad are a kind of sacrilege, they love the old Amiga case on their desk and playing with the old floppy, like a fetishist!
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CoolCat5000 19-01-2025 05:21, 4 days ago
Re: Nanomig
Hi, congrats, great work you have done on the distro! 🙂 And yes, have hardware acelerated 3D support is the actual/next chalenge of the “new amiga”(pistormland) Some labs have been done using sharedgl to have 3D support in an eGPU and back to the amiga screen https://x.com/Claude1079/status/1815123363050016868
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AMIGASYSTEM 19-01-2025 04:51, 4 days ago
Re: Nanomig
I didn't quite understand what you wrote, as said WHDload has its own internal system and works on all platforms the same way, On AROS x86 there is no WinUAE (under development), but in the video run on AROS x86 'native PC, no emulation' I used the emulator Janus-UAE which is WinUAE based, on AROS x86 there is also the E.UAE and UAE emulator. AROS 68k on the other hand if used on WinUAE you have maximum compatibility, WinUAE borders on perfection and all amiga OSes run perfectly, no "FPGA" at the moment can match WinUAE in both compatibility and power. We can safely say that WinUAE is the fastest and most compatible Amiga in existence. On an FPGA try running these games or AfA One (complete with windows skins and Dual-PNG icons) with Amiga https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe6ugseDJ9g&t=6s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2xZzyqRVrI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXyV1PvkNvo
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CoolCat5000 19-01-2025 04:37, 4 days ago
Re: Nanomig
I think that is UAE, more than whdload, and the diference is that nanomig has that in hardware (fpga, those demostrating aros compatibility in suport “original” hardware) I have the impression that those vídeos doesnt refletc AROS compatibilities in any aspect that you was talking about (or i didnt understood nothing 🙃) Best regards,
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AMIGASYSTEM
AMIGASYSTEM 19-01-2025 04:21, 4 days ago
Re: Nanomig
Regarding WHDLoad games, we are talking about something different here, apart from being able to install and play 'NODOS games', and compatible with any Amiga and AROS OS, this is because circumvents the operating system in the Amiga for greater compatibility and preserves the original program environment. WHDload games run well on AROS 68k, but work even better on AROS x86, see video (2 different ways to run WHDLoad games) https://youtu.be/Tjl3hrBlMpw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ9XGIipNGI
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CoolCat5000 19-01-2025 03:47, 4 days ago
Re: Nanomig
i was not aware of nothing of that. But i followed AROS development and the 68K port and, IMHO, running under something like pocket storm makes a lot of sense, as much as been the default hardware target. And that is a curiosity above the compatibilities issues that i must learn more to have opinions, even that i dont have nothing against the mixins variations i do think that 68k should be the natural habitat of AROS. (And benchmark it performance is not compatibilities issues) My 0,20 cents. PS: when i say 68k mostly im talking about whdload level of compatibility (not uae), as maybe an arm (or risc-v) port could also do the job. PS2: again, IMO, if AROS could run under Emu68 would be a great milestone, beside of compatibilities
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deadwood 19-01-2025 03:29, 4 days ago
Re: Nanomig
[quote name=AMIGASYSTEM post=7502]@AMIGASYSTEM - The problem is that some OS31 software is commercial in nature, and some has become so, so its use could be challenged. This happened to me with my AfA One distribution where I had to cease distribution because the Picasso and AK Datatypes libraries became commercial, and I could no longer use or update, [/quote] You're correct that this impacts distribution mainters like you. People who purchased this software can however use it under under any system they like. [quote name=AMIGASYSTEM post=7502]@AMIGASYSTEM also with the emergence of OS 3.2 and the end of OS 3.1/3.5/3.9 software development. Now and in the future new Amiga software will only be usable OS 3.2 (commercial system)[/quote] The good thing is that the decision which system version to support is in the hands on software developers not operating system manufacturer. Developers can continue to compile using "older" SDK and thus still support 3.1 "compatibility level" which means their software will work on widest system base (68k, AmigaOS4 and MorphOS).
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AMIGASYSTEM
AMIGASYSTEM 19-01-2025 03:19, 4 days ago
Re: Nanomig
The problem is that some OS31 software is commercial in nature, and some has become so, so its use could be challenged. This happened to me with my AfA One distribution where I had to cease distribution because the Picasso and AK Datatypes libraries became commercial, and I could no longer use or update, also with the emergence of OS 3.2 and the end of OS 3.1/3.5/3.9 software development. Now and in the future new Amiga software will only be usable OS 3.2 (commercial system)
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deadwood 19-01-2025 03:06, 4 days ago
Re: Nanomig
[quote name=AMIGASYSTEM post=7498]@AMIGASYSTEM - Unfortunately there is still 3.1 software that doesn't work and others that work badly, and to increase compatibility, libraries and system files are required that don't exist on Aros. [/quote] I'm sure 3.5, 3.9 and 3.2 also introduced subtle incompotibilites with 3.1. AROS has more of incompatibilites and I ackowledge that. The plan has always been to steadilly decrease those incompatibilties and that's happening although slower than I'd wish for. With regards to fusion in my opinion this is a valid strategy. Have you ever considered that it can be the same as with WINE and Windows games under Linux? If it was not for WINE I never would have been able to play high quality AAA games under Linux. Do all games work under WINE? No, but those that work enrich my Linux experience. Using existing 68k "aminet" components in same way enriches AROS experience.
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AMIGASYSTEM 19-01-2025 02:45, 4 days ago
Re: Nanomig
Unfortunately there is still 3.1 software that doesn't work and others that work badly, and to increase compatibility, libraries and system files are required that don't exist on Aros. This is one of the reasons why I have suspended development of the Aros One 68k, unfortunately without the fusion of native OS 3.1 software there are many restrictions.
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deadwood 19-01-2025 02:31, 4 days ago
Re: Nanomig
[quote name=AMIGASYSTEM post=7496]@AMIGASYSTEM - You can't expect AROS to run Amiga software, it's like telling Windows 11 to run Windows 98 software, and then saying that Windows 11 needs to go miles.[/quote] I don't understand this statement. Actually I fully expect AROS 68k to run at least 3.1 software. The fact that AROS is much more advanced than 3.1 doesn't mean it can't run 3.1 software.
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AMIGASYSTEM
AMIGASYSTEM 19-01-2025 02:24, 4 days ago
Re: Nanomig
No, Aros doesn't have to do any miles, if you want to use Amiga software you have to have an Amiga, if you have to use Aros you have to do it with the native Aros 68k software. You can't expect AROS to run Amiga software, it's like telling Windows 11 to run Windows 98 software, and then saying that Windows 11 needs to go miles.
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