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a beginner's confused steps

Last updated on 1 day ago
ami-elvisami-elvisJunior Member
Posted 8 days ago
So, I managed to get AROSOne up & running in VirtualBox yesterday with some help from this forum. I immediately pulled down the nightly and started coding a FTPclient with assistance from good old Claude.ai. Worked as expected, but of course I shouldn't build against the nightly, so had to run over it all again when I found Deadwoods github with the proper instructions. I always tend to complicate things, this old man never learn.

Anyway, it might be a fully working and good looking FTP program one day and if not, AROS is still fun. Next step is to scan the HCL list and build a proper box of it's own, and then code some more apps. A good weekend this, cheers
ntromans, deadwood, miker1264
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Amiwell79Distro Maintainer
Posted 8 days ago
welcome and thanks for your supportWink
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Jeff1138Member
Posted 8 days ago
Hi,

Welcome, it might be worthwhile staying with virtual or hosted.

For native hardware choose an intel 3rd or maybe 4th gen with a realtek ethernet.
FYI find AMD has too many quirks at the moment to be reliable. USB3 is getting better but not ready just yet.
Edited by Jeff1138 on 28-06-2026 06:14, 8 days ago
AMIGASYSTEMAMIGASYSTEMDistro Maintainer
Posted 8 days ago
Perfect, I’m glad my 64-bit AROS One is running well on VirtualBox. As soon as it’s available, I’ll test your programme and I hope to try future versions too.
ami-elvisami-elvisJunior Member
Posted 8 days ago

Jeff1138 wrote:

@Jeff1138 - Hi,

Welcome, it might be worthwhile staying with virtual or hosted.

For native hardware choose an intel 3rd or maybe 4th gen with a realtek ethernet.
FYI find AMD has too many quirks at the moment to be reliable. USB3 is getting better but not ready just yet.


Yeah I understand serious coding is better done on Host with AROS Bootstrap/Virtualbox. However, I like that feeling of hammering code and playing around on the real thing, that's why I write a lot of my code in Devpac on the Amiga1200 without helpful coloring and a native git client. Im complicating things but oh the joy Pfft
And.. my Virtualbox is so small on the screen, old mans eyes ..

So no AMD? I had a discussion with Claude analysing the HCL and he came up with ASRock B550M-HDV, AMD Ryzen 5 5500 and DDR4 16GB Kit (2 x 8GCool 3200MHz (PC4-25600). I already have an old box/psu, 2TB SATA and a GTX1050 and a GTX1060 card so I thought that woould do the trick, but perhaps not then..
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Jeff1138Member
Posted 8 days ago
Hi,

I'm amazed Claude did not get confused but good recommendation.

I just wanted to warn it might not be easy Shock But you seem to be someone that like to work at things so Like

Ryzen is better than other older AMD chips - just be aware there will be limitations that you will need to fill with other cards, usb3 with no backstop to usb2, etc

GTX 1050 and 1060 might have poor support under Aros due to Nvidia firmware not being released
Edited by Jeff1138 on 28-06-2026 07:04, 8 days ago
ami-elvisami-elvisJunior Member
Posted 8 days ago
Good to know!! Ill scan Amazon and check whats in all these boxes in the basement, think theres some old Radeon card as well
Well yea, I asked claude about hardware when I tried to put the sam440 together.. spent 300Euros on useless stuff, his not very good at that...
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Jeff1138Member
Posted 8 days ago
Hi,

Not a problem, there is a radeon driver being worked on but our current one supports 2d only on year 2000 hardware.
Audio codecs tend to be 50/50 coin flip if they work due to the chipset being reworked constantly and supposedly interchangeable.
ami-elvisami-elvisJunior Member
Posted 8 days ago
I did en inventory and found
* Silverstone case with a new PSU and 2TB SATA - guess I could use that
* 2× Crucial CT8G4DFS824A — DDR4-2400, 8GB
* Radeon HD6450
* ASUS GTX1050Ti
* MSI GTX1060

But no motherboard or CPU so I still have to choose between building something useful from these leftovers or buy a Dell Optiplex 7x or something for 50 Euros and hope it'll work. Or.. perhaps both.... Grin
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deadwoodAROS Dev
Posted 8 days ago
Here is hardware that is currently recommended for 64-bit:

https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Aros/Platforms/x86_Complete_System_HCL#Recommended_hardware_(64-bit)

That list right now only has 1 motherboard, but this will change in coming months as we are in last stateges of migration to 64-bit and right now working on harwdare support.

So if you don't want to experiment too much, get that board and GF9**** or GT2xx card.

If you do want to experiment, there are threads here with experimental builds of USB3 and NVidia drivers for much newer hardware. Those will be officially released once the migration is completed.
ami-elvis, sonountaleban
ami-elvisami-elvisJunior Member
Posted 1 day ago
So another week, mostly bread and butter coding unfortunately but I managed to get my simple FTP working to shuffle files completely unsafe in my internal network. I also started working on an ugly ZuneGui for sqlite3 since I'll need that when developing "AROSAP - the ultimate ERP system".. or something.
I'll add some license for that repo so anyone can do whatever they want with it, one day something might actualy be useful. Added another repo as well were I was going to document whatever I learn, don't hesitate to correct me if Im lying there Wink
https://elwis.github.io/aros-getting-started/

And.. I managed to buy the one and only compatible AROS motherboard and RAM and everything but forgot how lousy I am with hardware so still not booting. But still, a good AROS week.
deadwood, sonountaleban
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deadwoodAROS Dev
Posted 1 day ago
So far so good with the documention you created. Here are my comments :)

1.

toolchain-core-x86_64-build should be automatically deleted by the script after cross-compiler is built, so the user should not see it in the end

you can create scripts that embeded the --sysroot argument so that you don't have to pass it each time. Here is the x86_64-aros-gcc script I use:

exec /ssd/deadwood/repo-github-dd-core/toolchain-core-x86_64/x86_64-aros-gcc --sysroot=/ssd/deadwood/repo-github-dd-core/cross-x86_64-aros/Development "$@"


2.

e1000.device, not e100.device

PCnet-FAST III should also work with correct driver on AROS side. I use PCnet-FAST III in my virtual machines.

Getting files in/out - I use an USB pendrive attached to host. Copy file from host to pendrive, attach pendrive to running VM, copy files to disk. You can also use SMB (AROS One 1.3 has it configured I think).


4.

Check if this is useful: https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Aros/Developer/Zune
ami-elvisami-elvisJunior Member
Posted 1 day ago
Thanks for feedback, updates coming!
Regarding Zune, yes I need to get better with it for sure, if I ever want to publish something in the Archives I need to read about styling and remove a lot of ugliness. Creating "production ready" applications is another dimension.

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