[quote name=x-vision post=15362]@x-vision - That fork is shameful and bastard[/quote]

I would not say that. We will see how it will look like. It is not just another aros fork and has different goals. But there might be components that are also interesting here. For example they want to reimplement the AOS4 workbench 100%. We will see what is possible.

And yes Amigasystem is right. In parts of the community AROS is seen negative. Perhaps they have long ago made bad experiences or how often in this community no experience but strong convictions. Because of that I see more potential outside of our small bubble. Recent developments like the ports to RPi are important there.

As long as they don't use the AROS name for something that isn't AROS! That's misleading and it's incorrect.

ARia is acceptable to me, at least. What does it mean? Maybe "Amiga Re-Imagined Again"! Remember that Amiga 68k went to PPC. But now it seems PPC hardware is expensive, there isn't much future there either. It's a niche platform and people who work on Amiga OS realized that.

AROS has a chance to shine, to show that it's a stable, well-built, multi-platform that is very capable!

It's not like this hasn't happened before with AROS and Amiga. AfA OS was an attempt to merge AROS and Amiga 68k. It's also not unusual in the Linux world to use the Linux kernel because it's stable, had driver support and it's multi-platform. The developers of Mac OS realized that Linux was superior to their options at the moment so they built Darwin and Mac OS X has been going strong.

Using AROS to build a new kernel just proves that AROS is superior to Amiga OS in many ways! Most if not all of the stability and innovation in AROS today comes from ABIv1. We are just the recipients of all the work.

For the most part we will have to see what happens with this project ARia.

I'm interested to see how this all comes together. Amiga OS4 is a commercial product. I own a legal copy of Amiga OS4 FE. I run it in Amiga Forever Virtual Machine.

If it's a case of a special installer that installs the new kernel, the drivers and modified libraries. Will it be truly OS4 compatible? I'm more interested in the Raspberry Pi OS4.

If I read the article on amiga-news.de correctly the new kernel is working on certain hardware and some libraries have been customized and the PPC translation layer is in place. The Reaction GUI Toolkit has been completely revised. This last part is very interesting. It now supports PPC and ARM. But who revised it? The Reaction GUI Toolkit is fully owned by Hyperion.

You've got to be kidding. This could be the successor to AmigaOS. Open-source. Based on AROS, though not AROS. If the license is violated, your opinion will be justified. Until then, it's just your opinion.
Let's put this criticism aside. Let's look at the situation in the Linux world. Is there a Debian vs. Fedora or Mint vs. Ubuntu war going on there? Why do we need posts like yours?
We've achieved incredible success as AROS supporters. The hopes of AmigaOS users are focused on us. Let's argue with them, and there will be no further cooperation. Let's reach an agreement, and maybe we can create something together. To their benefit and ours.[/quote]

After all we have been through, if you still can't see that division is the worst for a community so small, you have a real problem.

The only possible explanation for his project is that he rejects AROS but want to take advantage of it. I can't imagine how selfish and shameless someone has to be to do something like that

There has always been an "If it's not AmigaOS, It's Crap!" crowd in the community I get it. They want official AmigaOS and see any work-alike as a threat They never understood why AROS was created, why it exists, and why it still has ongoing development Yet, they too worried about the future of AmigaOS after the bankruptcy, the repeated sales of the IP, and the series of lawsuits There was AROS quietly in the background, keeping the dream alive and, at times, propping up AmigaOS development

Andrea is doing some amazing development work based on AROS code First the drop-in OS4 kernel, and now an FOSS reimplementation of AmigaOS 4
He does suck at naming I do like the suggestion of OpenOS4 Though I'd go with OAS/4 (Open Amiga System 4) or maybe Oasis 4 O or just plain "Amie"

I'm interested to see where he goes with the development and how it all plays out I would like more details on it, however

I don't see the problem: AROS' license forces all contributions to be given back.
AROS needs changes to become an OS4 replacement and, more important, fixes & enhancements. Which will "return home".
I see only advantages by this "deal".

@cdimauro

> I see only advantages by this "deal".

There‘s no deal! There‘s not even any kind of communication from the developer of AROS4 to the AROS-Devs as I see it. In the opposite he stated that his project has so little in common with AROS that I certainly doubt that he will give anything back to AROS.

AROS aims to be a clean-room implementation of AmigaOS. Developers with past access to any original source code would jeopardize the legal standing of AROS by directly contributing code to AROS.

Anyway, just pointing out that "getting code submissions" can in fact have downsides too.