Hi all,
Just spreading the news!

https://github.com/harbaum/NanoMig

It doesnt boot AROS yet

so spread the news on arosland seems to make sense

https://www.atari-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=43729

Kind regards,

Not sure this would be powerful enough for AROS 68K but a neat project none the less. Very similar to the FleaOhm project but at least someone is developing on this one.

Well, it is more a proof of concept, and it seems that have this core on this fpga is feasible.

https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/Minimig-AGA_MiSTer

also, it would be possible to pistorm it. (infact this photo is from claude) that is now working for some kind of eGPU support

https://x.com/Claude1079/status/1663542095817367556

I spread the news just in case it awake some attention (it seems a really nice project, and imo a real good aros companion)

Oh I am very excited about this. I own a FleaOhm FPGA but it hasn't been updated in years. I have been waiting for a similar project to show up.

One question though: Why the Tang Nano 20K when there is a Tang Premier 25K?

[quote name=amigamia post=5782]@amigamia - Not sure this would be powerful enough for AROS 68K but a neat project none the less. Very similar to the FleaOhm project but at least someone is developing on this one.[/quote]
Isn't it a case of not having optimized graphic drivers? The underneath system shouldn't be that slower compared with AmigaOS

[quote name=amigamia post=5788]@amigamia -

One question though: Why the Tang Nano 20K when there is a Tang Premier 25K?[/quote]

i think because it fits, but the "master" port is an AtariST core that works on 20k, 25k and 138k variants!

[url]https://github.com/harbaum/MiSTeryNano[/url]

one nice thing is that it has midi in/out support!
(i think nowdays midi are just usb ports, but just as curiosity)

Dunno if this makes sense, but i like to think this nanomig approach (tang nano 20k) more like an amiga HAT for raspberry, using pistorm, in a scenario where aros and emu68 would be glued togheter rather than as a previous amiga model replica.


(just sharing my pov as it can make sense for others, or not )

A status update!

"I am currently restarting from scratch with the mister code. I don't know if it will even fit even if I disable many parts."

https://github.com/harbaum/NanoMig/issues/8

i hope that sometime soon i can come here to say that it booted AROS!

Hi all,

that was fast

https://github.com/harbaum/NanoMig/releases/tag/v0.3

As far as i understand, the fpga side is allready good to go, now would need a pi storm to have the steroids for AROS!

I dont know how much, but i think that would be an on budget AROS machine!

no schedule'n'rocking !

Very nice!

Hi, i know if someone was interested it would be following the topic, so not very polite from me to be a messenger middleman, but, anyway ...

no news from pistorm, my principal interest, otoh...

there was this video with the first signs of 68020

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uFKjddN-WSA

and this issue in a cry for help from till ....

"A useful AGA setup requires a fast 68020. The 68020 does indeed work on the NanoMig. For additional speed the turbo ram of minimig needs to be (re)-activated. Kick1.3 fails to run with a faster cpu and this routine fails:"

https://github.com/harbaum/NanoMig/issues/21

'It seems this routine waits for certain vpos values to be reached. Need to understand if this difference is a problem and/or how the code execution continues ... a commented Kickstart disassembly would be great ..."

so, again spreading the news as maybe someone can help!

Best regards,

This is a [b]very [/b]interesting project.
Is there more information besides the one available on the github page?

Hi all, again,
My interest in this project is to be able to run AROS.
2 things may help in this direction
1) a more capable variant: 25k or 60k
and/or
2) a pistorm approach

none of this paths seems to be in the roadmap, so if others agree with this view maybe we could have a more explicit support show about it? some thoughts that could enrich the roadmap toward this goal, maybe?

Best regards,

from the page: Up to 2MB chip and 1.5MB slow RAM

that is very limited for aros 68k. Also 68020 is limited too. One guy I had contact years ago booted aros on his A4000. It booted but was hardly useable, more a proof of concept

yes, i noticed it, that is why i posted.
it will need a pistorm!

(and also more capable variants maybe could have more nice verilog code for toccata sound, munt midi or something like that)

from the begining my idea was a pistormed nanomig, but i didnt saw any movement in that direction.
for me it would be an end of cycle (that started when aros begins) and open doors for a real new amiga, as nowdays ARM pcs is a reality.

running aros under emu68 is my last desire, and for me make sense as a natural evolution, but i am not an specialist, i just feel like it makes sense.

and again, i posted now cause i wonder how many agrees with this view and if there is something we could do to help accomplish it.

as far as i know emu68 can "boot" (run) smalPT, what would be needed to emu68 boot aros?
https://github.com/michalsc/Emu68/tree/master/examples/SmallPT

i cant do nothing, but still i think that this is the natural step of aros evolution, and it would be the most "new amiga" i could imagine.

Best regards,

AROS can never become Amiga, because for Amigans if an OS is not called Amiga it is not considered, moreover for Amigans AROS is synonymous with PC so in a way it is hated.

This is one of the reasons why AROS did not inherit the Amiga users when Commodore went bankrupt.

[quote name=AMIGASYSTEM post=6628]@AMIGASYSTEM - AROS can never become Amiga, because for Amigans if an OS is not called Amiga it is not considered, moreover for Amigans AROS is synonymous with PC so in a way it is hated.

This is one of the reasons why AROS did not inherit the Amiga users when Commodore went bankrupt.[/quote]

AROS was at that time not very useable and I also think there was no UAE available at that time. And additional, at first there was still hope that it is not the end. People who changed to PC used MS-DOS and later Windows. A half-developed amiga-like OS was not that interesting for many.

AROS was the 'first child' of Amiga was born in 1995, at that time Amiga emulation did not exist, UAE (Unusable Amiga Emulator) was also born in 1995 and was a very limited emulator.

As said, it was snubbed by Amiga users because it ran on the hated PC.

[quote name=AMIGASYSTEM post=6635]@AMIGASYSTEM - AROS was the 'first child' of Amiga was born in 1995, at that time Amiga emulation did not exist, UAE (Unusable Amiga Emulator) was also born in 1995 and was a very limited emulator.

As said, it was snubbed by Amiga users because it ran on the hated PC.[/quote]

Amiga-Users who stayed on amiga.... yes

well, i dont aim the puristic users, i saw it initiative as a step further and each project helped the other.
first, was great to be able to emulate AMIGA (UAE), than it was great to have a free AMIGA OS (AROS), than was great to have a new amiga hardware (Minimig)... and have AROS running under Minimig would end a cycle, we would have a new start for AMIGA.

but, Minimig is not powefull enough for AROS, than appear PiStorm, and now i think the cycle can be closed... we could have AROS (a free amiga OS) running in a new hardware, and that is my point.

End a cycle of a free os with a new hardware would give enough comptibility and space for new evolutions, but before new evolutions a cycle must end, and it would be imho AROS running in a "modern AMIGA" "free" hardware.

have a combo like nanomig as raspberry amiga hat would be the hardware for AROS to achieve it initial goal of keep AMIGA alive (with a 68k binary compatible approach), and after we can end this cycle, imho, it could be a new cycle for new specs, not limited as raspberry.

So, im not looking in the past, but to the future, and have such initiative would be, imho, this point, where we reached a closing cycle of past (a new approach to "old" AMIGA) and open the road for the new AMIGA (on most capable ARM hardware).

have AROS running under emu68 is the milestone that would make the attempt of AROS 68k be realised.

im not sure if my ideas are clear enought, but thats how i see the scenario.

thats why i am entusiastic about the nanomig+pistorm+aros combo, it would end the cycle of have a new AMIGA 68k compatible solution, ending the cycle of this objective, and open doors for who wants more powerfull approachs as the high end ARM platafforms.

imo, we have a gap, and this nanomig+pistorm+aros approach would close it. (but maybe im not with a clear vision about the subject)

Best regards,