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aros-sgJunior Member

Posted 1 year ago

#21

pixie wrote:

I tried the opaque commodity and it didn't work. When you opened the window, I wasn't able to move it around.

Seems that some "QEmu Tablet" USB thing ends up handling the mouse pointer. See Trident prefs. Mouse pos changes are then likely coming in as IECLASS_POINTERPOS or IECLASS_NEWPOINTER pos, but the opaque tool only looks out for IECLASS_RAWMOUSE. Intuition inputhandler does convert pointerpos events to rawmouse events, but opaque runs in commodities inputhandler which is higher priority and does not get to see this.

Also selection in shell/console windows is affected by this.

The settings (I think .. see Trident prefs) of this tablet thing also cause annoying behaviour at the screen borders. Like when you push the mouse pointer against the upper border. When you then want to move the pointer back into the inner area of the screen it takes some time (moving of the physical mouse) until the mouse sprite actually starts moving on screen.

Also the hotspot of the mouse sprite not being at 0,0 but horizontally a couple of pixels on the right seems wrong.
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retrofazaDistro Maintainer

Posted 1 year ago

#22

@pixie, @aros-sg

thanks for reporting bugs. noted. i will try to fix them in the next version

pixieMember

Posted 1 year ago

#23

I tried it on qemu on windows and the issue doesn't arise, Is the distro the very same AROS ONE from amigasystem or is it different? I would like to try it hosted to see how both compares. I tried it on windows qemu, and it seems that on linux to be faster and more responsive, I did some painting on luna paint and it seemed better. GPmark seemed pretty sluggish on windows and didn't present the tests, at all.

I started it like this:
start "" /w qemu-system-x86_64.exe -m 512 -drive file=aros.img,format=raw -vga std -boot a

now i am trying to get the contents so i try it hosted

Edited by pixie on 23-05-2025 11:44, 1 year ago

amigamiaAdmin

Posted 1 year ago

#24

@retrofaza

How difficult would it be to do the same thing but for ARM boards (Rpi, Orange Pi, etc.etc.) with an ARM Linux version but boot from SD card?

retrofazaDistro Maintainer

Posted 1 year ago

#25

amigamia wrote:

@amigamia - @retrofaza

How difficult would it be to do the same thing but for ARM boards (Rpi, Orange Pi, etc.etc.) with an ARM Linux version but boot from SD card?

Yes, it is possible. Does it make sense? I don't know, it would be slower because the processor would be emulated. I don't have the proper arm hardware to test it.

pixieMember

Posted 1 year ago

#26

retrofaza wrote:

@retrofaza - [quote name=amigamia post=8387]Yes, it is possible. Does it make sense? I don't know, it would be slower because the processor would be emulated. I don't have the proper arm hardware to test it.

When you're running on the same processor architecture—like x86 on x86 or ARM on ARM—the overhead tends to be lower, possibly because there's no need to translate instructions. In such cases, QEMU can use the KVM accelerator, which seems to help with performance by allowing the guest code to run more directly on the host CPU.

I don't know if in this case KVM is used or even if can be though...

amigamiaAdmin

Posted 1 year ago

#27

All true statements. I don't disagree that it may be slower but you won't know exactly how slow unless you try right?

GDroidJunior Member

Posted 1 year ago

#28

Please if any Aros ARM dev here, visit the ARUX brand New concept. It is hardware Independent Aros that expands the sdk and improoves dev results while reduces time and efforts. It is just x64/ARM at same time and gis far away... https://www.arosw...#post_8567

Amiwell79Distro Maintainer

Posted 1 year ago

#29

there are no arm developers at the moment but I may be wrong

ntromansVeteran Member

Posted 1 year ago

#30

I'm showing AROS at a local Amiga meet this weekend, so I've finally has the push to try this distribution (32 bit version).

On my HP i5 laptop it boots (albeit rather more slowly than the 5 s for the native install

. Once into AROS I had a series of errors relating to ahci.device 0, but once they are cancelled Wanderer starts. Although I've only briefly had a play with it, things seem to be working fine. Nice backdrop too

. Clearly a lot of work has gone into this, thank you.

On my HP AMD laptop no such luck; the 'eye' and circling dots appears ad then dissapear, leaving a blank screen and no boot .into AROS

Just a thought; it took some time to download and write the image, maybe have a 'lite' version with just the essential files so people can quickly donwload and try it?

Cheers,
Nigel.

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deadwoodAROS Dev

Posted 1 year ago

#31

With regards to speed: are you using USB3 pen drive and does your laptop have USB3 ports? This distribution is works great on "current hardware" (2020+). I use it on fairly recent Dell laptops. It would be great it you could show AROS on "current" hardware on that local meet

retrofazaDistro Maintainer

Posted 1 year ago

#32

ntromans wrote:

Once into AROS I had a series of errors relating to ahci.device 0, but once they are cancelled Wanderer starts.

It looks like there is a problem with your flash drive. Try another flash drive (preferably a USB 3.0 flash drive and a USB 3.0 port on your computer).

ntromansVeteran Member

Posted 1 year ago

#33

retrofaza wrote:

@retrofaza -
ntromans wrote:
Once into AROS I had a series of errors relating to ahci.device 0, but once they are cancelled Wanderer starts.

It looks like there is a problem with your flash drive. Try another flash drive (preferably a USB 3.0 flash drive and a USB 3.0 port on your computer).

Looks like I'll need to get a USB 3 drive... How do you go about installing this to hard drive?

Cheers,
Nigel.

ntromansVeteran Member

Posted 1 year ago

#34

deadwood wrote:

@deadwood - With regards to speed: are you using USB3 pen drive and does your laptop have USB3 ports? This distribution is works great on "current hardware" (2020+). I use it on fairly recent Dell laptops. It would be great it you could show AROS on "current" hardware on that local meet

My most modern hardware is the i7 desktop and i5 laptop; the fomer will be running 32 bit to show 3D capabilities (Cube 2 etc) and the latter will be running 64 bit native showing OWB 3.0. I will take along the protable drive to try on other attendees laptops (I know at least one person is bringing some along to try AROS).

Cheers,
Nigel.

P.S. 64 bit native has now finally found a permanent home on my i5's SSD and I've been busy configuring ready for the meet

retrofazaDistro Maintainer

Posted 1 year ago

#35

ntromans wrote:

@ntromans -
retrofaza wrote:
@retrofaza -
ntromans wrote:
Once into AROS I had a series of errors relating to ahci.device 0, but once they are cancelled Wanderer starts.

It looks like there is a problem with your flash drive. Try another flash drive (preferably a USB 3.0 flash drive and a USB 3.0 port on your computer).

Looks like I'll need to get a USB 3 drive... How do you go about installing this to hard drive?

Cheers,
Nigel.

It is possible. You can write the image on a disk.
At home, I recorded the image on an NVMe disk. It starts up and works incredibly fast.

Edited by retrofaza on 25-09-2025 08:24, 1 year ago

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ntromansVeteran Member

Posted 1 year ago

#36

Some further tests with mixed results.

I have an ACER Aspire ES1-512 I've been trying to get working with AROS for some time. It will boot native from SSD (both 32 and 64 bit) and has supported audio and wired network but USB does not work at all. So i tried the protable distribution on USB stick on it and it worked if booting in UEFI mode. So far so good, but after I'd written the image to hard-drive it refused to boot either in UEFI (no bootable media) or legacy (the installation was not seen at all; this was also the case with the USB stick). The hard-drive boots fine on my i5 machine though.

Cheers,
Nigel.

x-visionJunior Member

Posted 1 year ago

#37

When is a new version planned? sorry if this is a dumb question but I don't know if it possible to easily update the v1.0

retrofazaDistro Maintainer

Posted 1 year ago

#38

The current version is available for download at https://arosnews....portable/.

There is no easy upgrade path at this time. If you have any custom settings that you need to keep, copy them to another USB flash drive and then to the new version.

retrofazaDistro Maintainer

Posted 1 year ago

#39

ntromans wrote:

So far so good, but after I'd written the image to hard-drive it refused to boot either in UEFI (no bootable media) or legacy (the installation was not seen at all; this was also the case with the USB stick). The hard-drive boots fine on my i5 machine though.

Cheers,
Nigel.

Question: are you sure you saved the image to the HDD correctly? Remember that AROS Portable is not a partition image, but an image of the entire disk.

The easiest way is to connect the SATA drive via a SATA-USB adapter, then you can save the image using Rufus as you would on a regular USB flash drive (later you can connect the drive directly to your computer via SATA).

Under Linux, you can save this image to disk using the “dd” command.

ntromansVeteran Member

Posted 1 year ago

#40

retrofaza wrote:

@retrofaza -
ntromans wrote:
So far so good, but after I'd written the image to hard-drive it refused to boot either in UEFI (no bootable media) or legacy (the installation was not seen at all; this was also the case with the USB stick). The hard-drive boots fine on my i5 machine though.

Cheers,
Nigel.

Question: are you sure you saved the image to the HDD correctly? Remember that AROS Portable is not a partition image, but an image of the entire disk.

The easiest way is to connect the SATA drive via a SATA-USB adapter, then you can save the image using Rufus as you would on a regular USB flash drive (later you can connect the drive directly to your computer via SATA).

Under Linux, you can save this image to disk using the “dd” command.

The image was created as you outline - the hard drive was hooked up via a USB to SATA adapter. The image was written correctly as I can boot with issue using this hard drive (in the SATA interface) on my i5 machine. As mentioned, I was just hoping I could get the ACER running AROS as I'm hoping at some point to make it into a tablet format (the keyboard is damaged but it has a good size screen which I can source a 4-wire resistive overlay for).

Cheers,
Nigel.

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