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Trouble with installing on very well supported hardware

Last updated on 3 months ago
AMIGASYSTEMAMIGASYSTEMDistro Maintainer
Posted 3 months ago
@amigamia

Very strange I work on AROS One for hours without having Guru, users who use it can confirm it, probably your AROS One has something corrupted, try it the ISO of AROS One on a VM and see if you have the same problems.

At the moment nu user has reported these problems and Guru to me

Perchance you are running software from the old core ?

These videos demonstrate that James runs many Applications in many minutes on AROS One 2.4 without having serious problems:

AROS One 2.4 : Tutorial Video (52 Minutes)

AROS One 2.4 : Tutorial Video (41 Minutes)

AROS One 2.4 : Tutorial Video

AROS One 2.4 : Tutorial Video
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miker1264Software Dev
Posted 3 months ago
What is the current version of AROS One x86?

Is it 2.4 or 2.5 ?
AMIGASYSTEMAMIGASYSTEMDistro Maintainer
Posted 3 months ago
miker sorry, unintentionally I misspelled, then old age and copy-paste did the rest.

The current version is 2.4, 2.5 is under construction !
I correct the post
amigamiaamigamiaAdmin
Posted 3 months ago
@AMIGASYSTEM

So I gave AROS One 2.4 another try. I made sure the USB drive was clear of any partitions and boot record. Clean slate!

I was able to install it from the ISO to the USB. I still can't use the VHD image you created.

I then installed it on my Dell Latitude D520 without errors.

And here is where the experience started to take a down turn. I started my favorite game Open Tyrian 2.1 from Extras Games. It starts, I go through the menu and right before starting to play, it crashes with a Stack error (see attached).

NOTE: the same game in a plain AROS install from deadwood files does not crash. I can play for hours and no issues.

Now, to get it working fine on AROS ONE, I had to set the stack to 10000000. This is what I was talking about in my previous post. Applications crash for no apparent reason. The stack for some reason may not be big enough on your distribution.
Edited by amigamia on 20-03-2024 06:52, 3 months ago
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mattson62mattson62Junior Member
Posted 3 months ago
@AMIGASYSTEM @amigamia thought i would try on my VirtualBox setup same results
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AMIGASYSTEMAMIGASYSTEMDistro Maintainer
Posted 3 months ago
All, on AROS there is no software to have an automatic Stack, on no AROS OS can you manage the Stack, you have to add it by hand to all applications that require it.

About Open Tyrian, "the Original Icon" requires a Stack of 100000, see screnshot.

On AROS One when I created the new Icon, I just forgot to add the Stack !

Without the Stack of 100000 Open Tyrian goes to Guru even on the deadwood reference ISO,

The Core of AROS One is identical to the deadwood ISO, the problem on AROS One, is just because of some forgetfulness to add the Stack

I don't have any blocks, please report me on which software you are experiencing problems, so I can check for me also exists for me, Or on the referenced ISO.
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amigamiaamigamiaAdmin
Posted 3 months ago
Just FYI, I opened a shell and set the stack there. I did not change the stack on the application icon. I assume one sets it globally for the entire OS and the other is for the application only? What's the benefit of one vs the other?

Also, many other apps that had their own icon have been changed with your icon set. Are you going one by one to check stack requirements? I presume OpenTyrian isn't the only software to benefit from a large stack. Maybe that is why I am experiencing the annoying GURU while working in AROS One?
AMIGASYSTEMAMIGASYSTEMDistro Maintainer
Posted 3 months ago
The Stack from the Shell works only once, if you close the Shell, and start a new Shell you will have to set the Stack again.

You can't set the Stack globally in the Startup - sequence or other place, it won't work, on OS3 there is "StackAttack" which automatically sets the necessary Stack, unfortunately on AROS there is no such thing, indispensable tool like this.

https://aminet.ne...ackAttack2

Before deploying AROS One "every time" I test all the included software, with OpenTyrian I only tested that it would boot.
if I were to play with all games it would take weeks of testing..

Probably besides OpenTyrian there may be some other software where you will need to increase the Stack, also consider the opposite, on AROS One there are settings that without my Icon settings could not start.

If you exit the game by clicking on the exit gadget from the window, you will always get a Guru, this also happens with the reference ISO, see screenshot.
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amigamiaamigamiaAdmin
Posted 3 months ago

AMIGASYSTEM wrote:

@AMIGASYSTEM - The Stack from the Shell works only once, if you close the Shell, and start a new Shell you will have to set the Stack again.

You can't set the Stack globally in the Startup - sequence or other place, it won't work, on OS3 there is "StackAttack" which automatically sets the necessary Stack, unfortunately on AROS there is no such thing, indispensable tool like this.

https://aminet.ne...ackAttack2


OK Fair enough. Perhaps we should take a look to Stack Attack and see if it can be reverse engineered.

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Before deploying AROS One "every time" I test all the included software, with OpenTyrian I only tested that it would boot.
if I were to play with all games it would take weeks of testing..

Probably besides OpenTyrian there may be some other software where you will need to increase the Stack, also consider the opposite, on AROS One there are settings that without my Icon settings could not start.


Well, thank you for that!

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If you exit the game by clicking on the exit gadget from the window, you will always get a Guru, this also happens with the reference ISO, see screenshot.


That's a known bug in the implementation of the AROS SDL_quit function. I remember reading about it on another SDL based application/game, which I can't remember the name at the moment. There was a work around I believe. If I manage to find that, I'll try to recompile it. The game quits just fine if you use the Esc key or use the exit game from the menu.

BTW, also using GCC may require a larger stack. It GURUs when compiling Open Tyrian on AROS Native.
Edited by amigamia on 20-03-2024 22:52, 3 months ago
AMIGASYSTEMAMIGASYSTEMDistro Maintainer
Posted 3 months ago
Yes the GCC Guru is also known, we have talked about it here on the forum, if you compile small and simple sources you don't need the Stack, but when you compile large and comomplex sources you have to give a Stack of 200000.
AMIGASYSTEMAMIGASYSTEMDistro Maintainer
Posted 3 months ago

amigamia wrote:

@amigamia
OK Fair enough. Perhaps we should take a look to Stack Attack and see if it can be reverse engineered.

Stack Attack includes the sources, but they are ASM

There is also Stack Attack 2

http://aminet.net...ackAttack2
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